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# [Why Forced JSON Output Is Always Valid and Sometimes Wrong](https://theaicommit.hashnode.dev/why-forced-json-output-is-always-valid-and-sometimes-wrong?utm_source=hashnode&utm_medium=feed)

Structured output deletes the tokens your schema forbids, so the JSON always parses. When the model has no legal answer it guesses.

Oct 24 · 9 min read · theaicommit.hashnode.dev  
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[Kartik N V J K](https://hashnode.com/@kartik-nvj)

[Oct 26](https://hashnode.com/posts/why-forced-json-output-is-always-valid-and-sometimes-wrong/6adcc7bb3afe81e3e633f8aa/comment/6adf3f2df2d63d3f7ac401fb)

Those blurry scan numbers made this click for me. 15% of the probability on the three legal values, and high still comes out 40% of the time looking exactly like a confident answer. In my extraction evals I'd also split the test set by input quality, since forced picks on bad scans can hide inside a healthy average the same way one bad schema does.

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[Oct 24](https://hashnode.com/posts/why-forced-json-output-is-always-valid-and-sometimes-wrong/6adcc7bb3afe81e3e633f8aa/comment/6adce6415429ea0df8c0377a)

The 'unknown' enum is the underrated bit. I'd also log how often it fires per schema: a rate stuck at exactly zero on messy inputs suggests the model is still being cornered, not that the data is clean.