The idea used to be to make the environment ubiquitous and opaque so that the focus was on designing and coding. When one has to re-learn an environment with every project and frequently the environment is chosen using the "management via in-flight magazine" style approach, it's no wonder things are as bad as they are. Everywhere. One of my old clients is going on 2 years to implement an e-commerce site with Redux. Another is now over a year past "almost ready to launch" stage (although that's a PHP situation with way too many things tacked on). It's everywhere. Can someone point me to a great framework application in the wild? I'm sick of "todo list".