what frameworks ? .... it always depends what you need and what you want. general purpose frameworks are a lot of useless overhead but .... it depends how much you really know.
a lot of people can't compensate the lack of a framework because they wanna write applications and don't want to solve the basic problems ..... for me that's a focus / knowledge problem.
I personally don't like bootstrap or jquery but I use it on regular basis for customers because I'm not a frontend person. Angular event propagation, rendering cycle just suck and so on .... but you have to
I'm not a big fan of ORMs still I use them because I cannot expect the following developer to understand the databases or how keys work together....
I prefer libraries over frameworks any second but I cannot expect other developers, who are hired to maintain a specific type of app to understand or even be interested in my concerns ... that's why I use frameworks ... so I spare myself useless conversations about "my taste is so much better" :) unless I'm asked specifically than I will build something custom.
But only if I think they understand what they are asking me to do and give me reason not to use something standard.