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j I was searching for our prior discussion, but could not find it. Thank you for taking initiative! You are absolutely right, and developer convenience is fairly important for new Rusticians.

Not everyone needs to do 'crazy stuff' like me but just try sending an API POST request without the correct content-type and read the error message or miss field in the post-body.

Though I have to say that Spring is also very frustrating in this aspect. Took us quite a while to figure out we forgot to use a Content-Type to make the framework happy (even though the body was EMPTY). I think handling quirks of very opinionated frameworks is always a problem, and unless you have very strict definitions and implement them exactly, you will run into problems. Good for corporate, bad for hacking.

Marco Alka maybe it was in the channel? or did you mean the one with the web socket?

Though I have to say that Spring is also very frustrating in this aspect. Took us quite a while to figure out we forgot to use a Content-Type to make the framework happy (even though the body was EMPTY).

oh wow spring does this too? I didn't know that, but if it was anything like me realizing the problem it was the moment when my face turned into 'resting bitch'-face shortly before the face palm and the laughter ;D.

At least that's how I did it with actix, when realizing the problem.

I think handling quirks of very opinionated frameworks is always a problem, and unless you have very strict definitions and implement them exactly, you will run into problems. Good for corporate, bad for hacking.

True, I understand why they did it, at least I think I do. Still I would orient myself towards how people use something and not solely towards the specification.

I esp. agree with the opinionated parts they can be frustrating if you deviate from the 'expected behaviour'. Which is logical, but still frustrating :D

j

in the channel? or did you mean the one with the web socket?

Was it websockets? The one we had in the replies on Hashnode, where you updated me from time to time, which was pretty cool!

my face turned into 'resting bitch'-face shortly before the face palm and the laughter ;D

Yeah, same here. Big round of "this is not really happening" 🤪 Since then I always double check the API docs.

I would orient myself towards how people use something

I guess that's why there are so many frameworks out there. Each for it's own use-case. In an ideal world, we could use a simple approach for hacking and creating a PoC, then, once everything is working, rewrite it using a sane approach. Agreed to by no manager ever.

Marco Alka

Was it websockets? The one we had in the replies on Hashnode, where you updated me from time to time, which was pretty cool!

hashnode.com/post/what-is-your-favorite-rust-web-… this one? :D took me some scrolling :D

I guess that's why there are so many frameworks out there. Each for it's own use-case. In an ideal world, we could use a simple approach for hacking and creating a PoC, then, once everything is working, rewrite it using a sane approach. Agreed to by no manager ever.

Yes, maybe going more for library approach than a framework approach would help. But we would have the interface and standards issues all over again. PHP tried it with the PSRs with 'some success'. PSR-7, PSR-11 and such are interchangeable in multiple frameworks these days.

yes, managers .... they love to give you time an money to improve working software ;D .... and never ever throw millions at the second system syndrome ;D ... that's why we have perfect software ;D ...

thank you every one for your suggestions i am developing the web site for a company it's for my final year it's like a school project that i have to do in a company so that i can get my degree .Only a month remained to get things done and i was thinking about spring because for what i know it is based on java and i already know java

Ela Hidri Spring is quite simple... however you need to read lots of documentation, because it's more configuration than code. If it's about getting things done in a month, NodeJS might be quicker and you already know JS. Just hack it™

Good luck for your degree!

thank you for all your advises, but i am actually not very good at JS would it be difficult for me if so ?

Ela Hidri JS is very easy to use and hack, and I have some colleagues who can do wonders without a lot of JS knowledge. In the end, however, it comes down to what you feel the most comfortable with. If you have lots of Java experience, and using NodeJS or Twisted would mean learning a language, plus stdlib, plus lib or framework, then please, do what you can do best! I can only talk out of my experience, though 😉

What I can definitely say is that you should decide for one, and then stick with it. There is not much time left, so for the better or worse, use one and use it till the end. After that, you will have more experience and might choose differently for the next project, but for this one, stick to what you decide! There are good and bad things to say about every language and framework, and this time, you will have to learn to conquer them.

i decided to go for the node.js but i found that it is a mono-thread and i need the app to be multi-threaded what should i do

Ela Hidri JS is single-threaded, however most JS engines, including the one in NodeJS, work with threads under the hood and do not wait on IO for completion, so that a single NodeJS instance can serve millions of clients simultaneously.

Usually, it's the easiest if you just stay ignorant and code your thing. NodeJS will be fast enough most of the time for small projects, and there are managers for scaling your application with ease:

However, if, for whatever reason, you really need more threads (because you have a long-running compute task or similar), I recommend using the cluster module for a worker process. You can read more about it here: