@emilmoe in general, yes :D but I helped building several startups so i know everything involving money is a luxury :D coffee is the minimum :D even with an investor the money was flowing only into the company so i had to pay for everything on my own :) which is okay but it makes you look at things differently :) blabla.. gg sorry in the end you're right it's the minimum for a decent working place as a dev :D