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Linux desktop forces you to use CLI every now and then. Unlike mac and windows, CLI isn't optional on linux.

There are already AppImage and Debian packages (similiar to .exe), so there would be not anymore need to use CLI. But it is a matter of time. It will evolve. Windows was like many decades ago.

People are really snarky and obnoxious in Linux community. Their activism and socialism approach goes out of hand and often people don't want such negativity for simply using desktop. You don't have such negativity and activism propaganda always hanging on your shoulder when you use Mac and Windows.

I disagree totally with you. There are Linux conservative, far right, right wing and Christian users. I guess you are a right wing guy.

If you think activism and socialism are bad, please do not complain about overpriced softwares like Adobe and Microsoft, and stop using open source softwares.

Yes, I know the most of Linux users are arrogant, cruel, cyberbullies, disgusting, egoist, elitist, fake, newbie-hostile and narcissistic. But would you like I call you with offensive words for being a macOS/Windows user?

Lot of desktop apps which are popular on Mac and Windows don't have strong replacement on Linux.

You are not self-sufficient or or are not hardworking to research. Tell me the applications that you do not find.

Nobody cares about design in Linux community. We are in 2019 but lot of Linux desktops are still in 1999. If you check some of the UI of some desktop managers, you'd just get irritated with windows border themes and icons.

Did you not learn that it is a matter of time? macOS and Windows were like. Linux is too new.

Have you never complained that you can not change the icons the Microsoft-stored apps or can not customise Apple system UI? Still, you are not self-sufficient and hardworking, you can change Linux desktop UI and icons until it fit your needs. Here are the screenshots: /unixporn.

Windows and Mac being mature a lot of documentation is out as soon as the updates come in. In case of linux there is a lot of fragmentation on that front and nobody gets paid for fixing it being an open source in fact you re more likely to get hate for helping out on linux than anything. So why would anyone waste their time of their life doing micro fault management on linux everyday?

Then I told you that it is a matter of time, did you not learn? I told it in former paragraphies, and then it will evolve and get mature with the time. macOS and Windows were like.

Hear, RedHat has been bought by IBM. Soon Canonical and other Linux enterprises will be bought by big IT enterprises too. Then with it, they will evolve and get mature with the time.

Gergely Polonkai the same thing goes for java doesn't it? or any system that provides a vm+runtime.

Marco Alka

Imho, one of the major problems of Linux is its legacy. Whenever I talk to people about Linux on the desktop, people usually shoo away, but they always use the same argument: Linux? Isn't that a lot of complicated command line action, bad UX, ugly UIs and most programs I need don't work?

• Have you already learned how to customise UI theme and icons?
• C++, Docker, Java, nodejs, PHP and Python (Django) require you to learn the command lines. If you do not want to learn command lines, then you can not be a programmer or a computer scientist or IT engineer because these professions do not fit well with whom does not want to learn to use terminal.

Gustavo Benedito Costa

Have you already learned how to customise UI theme and icons?

Yes, and most of the time it is simply downloading a theme from a market place, just like you'd do on a smartphone. If you want more control, different DEs offer different ways, depending on the toolkit used. Often, though, it's as simple as changing a menu entry, or creating a CSS style-sheet.

C++, Docker, Java, nodejs, PHP and Python (Django) require you to learn the command lines.

I disagree with you. You can write at least write C++, Java and PHP without ever touching the command line, depending on what you develop, thanks to modern IDEs. I don't know about Python, since I never really used it before, except for some image manipulation during University. I didn't need to learn the command line for that either, though. NodeJS is very command line centric, as is Docker. However, during my 10 years as a software developer, I never once needed Docker.

If you do not want to learn command lines, then you can not be a programmer or a computer scientist or IT engineer

Yes, you can. As explained above, you do not need the command line in order to learn, develop or execute programs.

these professions do not fit well with whom does not want to learn to use terminal.

They actually do. I doubt that before NodeJS many front-end guys would know any terminal command at all, if they didn't need it for other stuff. Especially on Windows, who would ever need a command line. That thing was so crippled before PowerShell anyway, that you couldn't use it effectively. I learned programming on Windows, with Delphi in the Borland Delphi 5 IDE (later on in the Embarcadero IDE). I didn't need the command line, and had I not started to work on my own servers, I would not have had to learn the command line for University for some other 5 years. Even now, I am good without it most of the time for my day job.

The terminal is another tool, which was made for administration, and it has many merits. However, it's just that: One possible tool to get a job done. And heck, are there many tools out there which try to get the same thing done in a different way.

Gijo Varghese

Whenever I search for tools like Client for Postgres, Git GUI, most of the popular software says "Download for Windows/MacOS". All of my colleagues use Mac (it works!) :(

• There is Gitkraken and GitAhead (the best) GUI for Linux.
• Here is Navicat GUI for all SQL clients and servers
• Here is DBeaver
• Here is pgAdmin

Poor UX, constant switching between GNOME and Ubuntu One. I appreciate Windows on their speed of improvements in UX

You are not self-sufficient. Here are the screenshots in the Reddit subreddit ]/unixporn](reddit.com/r/unixporn). You need to install GNOME Tweaks.

PS: I'm switching to Mac very soon

Before calling me any sarcastic words, I am a Mac user for a decade. I warn you not to buy, because if you purchase the latest Apple computers, you will be locked and will not be able to iQuit or will be iHanged by Apple, I mean, you will not be able to upgrade the memory, HDD, SSD or then the processor because everything is soldered The new law of Apple forbids you of lending your computer to the third party IT technicians for repairing. It allows you to lend only to Apple stores, but you will have to pay 1k to 3k dollars, the same price of an Apple computer. See the cases and read attentively:

Recent

1. motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/a3ppvj/dhs-sei…
2. motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/yw9qk7/macbook…

Rxtremely important

cbc.ca/news/thenational/complete-control-apple-ac…

Old, but important

1. thenextweb.com/apple/2017/03/10/apple-iphone-macb…
2. gizmodo.com/apples-war-on-upgrades-continues-with…
3. boredpanda.com/apple-refuses-repair-phones

If you want to buy the topmost Apple computer and want only with macOS, the problem is yours, but do not come to complain and to cry when you break something, can not afford paying more 1k dollars for a repair in the Apple Store. Do not try to make it on a non-Apple IT repair shop, because you will be deprived of everything and seized by Apple.

Do not try to buy old Apple computers, because macOS has already gotten increasingly slower and Linux does not fit well on old Apple computers due to numberless breakdowns.

Gustavo Benedito Costa Thanks for your reply! I'm not saying Ubuntu have tools/software, yes they have clients for Postgres, git GUIs. But nothing is smooth and performing well as software in Mac.

I agree that most of the Apple hardware is not upgradable. But I'm not seeing that as a big issue. I built my current PC 5 years ago. I haven't upgraded any parts yet. Just choose the best spec while buying, that's it. And when I buy a MacBook, I'm not planning to use it for more than 5 years.

Can you suggest a laptop that's powered by SSD, runs development tools smoothly, good battery life as MacBook Air, lightweight, and that's under $1000? I couldn't find a good one.

Gijo Varghese

It depends on what you are doing more. If you use heavy IDEs like JetBeans or XCode or then VSCode, and also if you want to run the virtual machine of Linux or Windows.

• If you only play with git, Postgres and with few heavy IDES like JetBeans apps, VSCode and XCode and lightweight text editors like Sublime Text and to upgrade the RAM, the SSD and add a HDD and do not care about the old Apple computers:

  • Core i7
  • 16GB RAM
  • SSD of 125GB
  • HDD of 500GB
  • Years 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015 and 2016.
  • Do not buy the 2017s Apple computers.

• If you want to run the virtual machine:

  • SSD of 256GB
  • HDD of 1 or 2TB
  • Same years

• If you do not care about upgrading the parts, just do not run the virtual machine, do not save too much on the SSD, use ones apps and save on the external HDD/SSD.

As you are from India, it is hard to find and buy a MacBook Air with these specifications. You need to get a MacBook Air with 8GB RAM and Core i7, and then you can upgrade to 16GB RAM.

I do not know any Indian technology shop sites that sell refurnished/second-hand MacBooks Air. I know only Aliexpress and eBay. As at the Aliexpress, the MacBooks Air are in China, you will find only the latest MacBook Aires unless you want to use 16GB RAM and to add a second HDD/SSD.